Can a GP with surgical training bill item 41764?

Date of Answer:
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11:57 am  I  August 1, 2020  I  Margaret Faux

Date of Answer: 11:57 am  I  August 1, 2020

GP 2020/0611

Answer

Probably not.

Context

A general practitioner has asked whether he can claim item 41764 given he has appropriate surgical training to perform the procedure, which is a nasendoscopy/sinoscopy.

Relevant legislative provisions

Health Insurance Act 1973

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulations (No. 1) 2020

Other Relevant Materials

Article includes commentary on the Stirling decision: Frenetic law making during the COVID-19 pandemic: the impact on doctors, patients and the Medicare system. https://auspublaw.org/2020/04/frenetic-law-making-during-the-covid-19-pandemic-the-impact-on-doctors-patients-and-the-medicare-system/

Case law

Stirling v Minister for Finance [2017] FCA 874

Departmental interpretation

MBS context

Group T8 – Surgical Operations

Subgroup 8 – Ear, Nose And Throat

Item 41764

NASENDOSCOPY or SINOSCOPY or FIBREOPTIC EXAMINATION of NASOPHARYNX and LARYNX, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination.”

AND

Item 41500

EAR, foreign body (other than ventilating tube) in, removal of, other than by simple syringing

Detailed Reasoning

Before continuing please read OH 2020/064 as it provides important information regarding this question and the risks involved in relying on advice from anyone who tells you that you can bill this service. Dr Stirling’s case (discussed in that answer) almost exactly mirror’s this scenario and is a cautionary tale.

Item 41764 is positioned in the surgical, ENT section of the schedule, which in and of itself does not necessarily exclude a GP from billing it. GPs can certainly bill the first item in that section of the schedule which is item 41500, removal of foreign body from the ear.

However, starting with a global view of the MBS, the simpler, more straightforward procedures are usually at the beginning of each section, with more difficult procedures following by order of complexity. And whilst there are certainly procedures scattered throughout many sections of the schedule that GPs and all doctors can claim, they tend to be quite tightly restricted. As we explained in OH 2020/064, the fact of having a provider number does not mean a doctor can claim every item in the schedule. Provider numbers are restricted based on registration details held by AHPRA and are linked to certain services.

Taking a step back in time before the MBS Review Taskforce, many surgical procedures in the schedule indicated that a GP could provide the service by use of the letter G. The same item would immediately follow, with the letter S and a higher fee, indicating the specialist equivalent service. Below is a relevant example from the 2016 Regulations. You will see that item 41764 never included a G whereas removal of tonsils and adenoids did.

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

41764Nasendoscopy or sinoscopy or fibreoptic examination of nasopharynx and larynx, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination of (Anaes.)122.85
41788Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (G) (H) (Anaes.)219.95
41789Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (S) (H) (Anaes.)295.70
41800Adenoids, removal of (G) (H) (Anaes.)117.55
41801Adenoids, removal of (S) (H) (Anaes.)162.95

Jump to today and the use of G and S has been discontinued so it is no longer immediately apparent which services, which doctors can claim. However, because item 41764 has never been claimable by GPs, on balance, we suggest it remains a service that GPs cannot claim.

Examples and other relevant information

A call to Medicare is obviously appropriate, but heed the warning of Dr Stirling’s case and be very sure to obtain written advice on official departmental letterhead before making any decisions about whether to proceed and presumably invest in the expensive fibreoptic equipment required to perform this service. Dr Stirling invested in similarly expensive equipment and it did not end well.

Who this applies to

All GPs

When this applies

Always

Relevant AIMAC courses

Introduction to Medicare and Medical Billing

2:42 pm  I  August 17, 2020  I  Margaret Faux

Date of Answer: 2:42 pm  I  August 17, 2020

GP 2020/0611

Answer

Probably not.

Context

A general practitioner has asked whether he can claim item 41764 given he has appropriate surgical training to perform the procedure, which is a nasendoscopy/sinoscopy.

Relevant legislative provisions

Health Insurance Act 1973

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulations (No. 1) 2020

Other Relevant Materials

Article includes commentary on the Stirling decision: Frenetic law making during the COVID-19 pandemic: the impact on doctors, patients and the Medicare system. https://auspublaw.org/2020/04/frenetic-law-making-during-the-covid-19-pandemic-the-impact-on-doctors-patients-and-the-medicare-system/

Case law

Stirling v Minister for Finance [2017] FCA 874

Ostrowski v Palmer [2004] HCA 30

Departmental interpretation

MBS context

Group T8 – Surgical Operations

Subgroup 8 – Ear, Nose And Throat

Item 41764

NASENDOSCOPY or SINOSCOPY or FIBREOPTIC EXAMINATION of NASOPHARYNX and LARYNX, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination.”

AND

Item 41500

EAR, foreign body (other than ventilating tube) in, removal of, other than by simple syringing

Detailed Reasoning

Before continuing please read OH 2020/064 as it provides important information regarding this question and the risks involved in relying on advice from anyone who tells you that you can bill this service. In addition, the High Court has provided authority on the unreliability of reliance on advice from public officials, see Ostrowski. Also, Dr Stirling’s case (discussed in answer OH 2020/064) almost exactly mirror’s this scenario and is a cautionary tale.

Item 41764 is positioned in the surgical, ENT section of the schedule, which in and of itself does not necessarily exclude a GP from billing it. GPs can certainly bill the first item in that section of the schedule which is item 41500, removal of foreign body from the ear.

However, starting with a global view of the MBS, the simpler, more straightforward procedures are usually at the beginning of each section, with more difficult procedures following by order of complexity. And whilst there are certainly procedures scattered throughout many sections of the schedule that GPs and all doctors can claim, they tend to be quite tightly restricted. As we explained in OH 2020/064, the fact of having a provider number does not mean a doctor can claim every item in the schedule. Provider numbers are restricted based on registration details held by AHPRA and are linked to certain services.

Taking a step back in time before the MBS Review Taskforce, many surgical procedures in the schedule indicated that a GP could provide the service by use of the letter G. The same item would immediately follow, with the letter S and a higher fee, indicating the specialist equivalent service. Below is a relevant example from the 2016 Regulations. You will see that item 41764 never included a G whereas removal of tonsils and adenoids did.

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

41764Nasendoscopy or sinoscopy or fibreoptic examination of nasopharynx and larynx, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination of (Anaes.)122.85
41788Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (G) (H) (Anaes.)219.95
41789Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (S) (H) (Anaes.)295.70
41800Adenoids, removal of (G) (H) (Anaes.)117.55
41801Adenoids, removal of (S) (H) (Anaes.)162.95

Jump to today and the use of G and S has been discontinued so it is no longer immediately apparent which services, which doctors can claim. However, because item 41764 has never been claimable by GPs, on balance, we suggest it remains a service that GPs cannot claim.

Examples and other relevant information

A call to Medicare is obviously appropriate, but heed the warning of Dr Stirling’s case and be very sure to obtain written advice on official departmental letterhead before making any decisions about whether to proceed and presumably invest in the expensive fibreoptic equipment required to perform this service. Dr Stirling invested in similarly expensive equipment and it did not end well.

Who this applies to

All GPs

When this applies

Always

Relevant AIMAC courses

Introduction to Medicare and Medical Billing

6:02 pm  I  January 16, 2023  I  Margaret Faux

Date of Answer: 6:02 pm  I  January 16, 2023

GP 2020/0611

Answer

Probably not.

Context

A general practitioner has asked whether he can claim item 41764 given he has appropriate surgical training to perform the procedure, which is a nasendoscopy/sinoscopy.

Relevant legislative provisions

Health Insurance Act 1973

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulations (No. 1) 2020

Other Relevant Materials

Article includes commentary on the Stirling decision: Frenetic law making during the COVID-19 pandemic: the impact on doctors, patients and the Medicare system. https://auspublaw.org/2020/04/frenetic-law-making-during-the-covid-19-pandemic-the-impact-on-doctors-patients-and-the-medicare-system/

Case law

Stirling v Minister for Finance [2017] FCA 874

Ostrowski v Palmer [2004] HCA 30

Departmental interpretation

MBS context

Group T8 – Surgical Operations

Subgroup 8 – Ear, Nose And Throat

Item 41764

NASENDOSCOPY or SINOSCOPY or FIBREOPTIC EXAMINATION of NASOPHARYNX and LARYNX, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination.”

AND

Item 41500

EAR, foreign body (other than ventilating tube) in, removal of, other than by simple syringing

Detailed Reasoning

Before continuing please read OH 2020/064 as it provides important information regarding this question and the risks involved in relying on advice from anyone who tells you that you can bill this service. In addition, the High Court has provided authority on the unreliability of reliance on advice from public officials, see Ostrowski. Also, Dr Stirling’s case (discussed in answer OH 2020/064) almost exactly mirror’s this scenario and is a cautionary tale.

Item 41764 is positioned in the surgical, ENT section of the schedule, which in and of itself does not necessarily exclude a GP from billing it. GPs can certainly bill the first item in that section of the schedule which is item 41500, removal of foreign body from the ear.

However, starting with a global view of the MBS, the simpler, more straightforward procedures are usually at the beginning of each section, with more difficult procedures following by order of complexity. And whilst there are certainly procedures scattered throughout many sections of the schedule that GPs and all doctors can claim, they tend to be quite tightly restricted. As we explained in OH 2020/064, the fact of having a provider number does not mean a doctor can claim every item in the schedule. Provider numbers are restricted based on registration details held by AHPRA and are linked to certain services.

Taking a step back in time before the MBS Review Taskforce, many surgical procedures in the schedule indicated that a GP could provide the service by use of the letter G. The same item would immediately follow, with the letter S and a higher fee, indicating the specialist equivalent service. Below is a relevant example from the 2016 Regulations. You will see that item 41764 never included a G whereas removal of tonsils and adenoids did.

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

41764Nasendoscopy or sinoscopy or fibreoptic examination of nasopharynx and larynx, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination of (Anaes.)122.85
41788Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (G) (H) (Anaes.)219.95
41789Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (S) (H) (Anaes.)295.70
41800Adenoids, removal of (G) (H) (Anaes.)117.55
41801Adenoids, removal of (S) (H) (Anaes.)162.95

Jump to today and the use of G and S has been discontinued so it is no longer immediately apparent which services, which doctors can claim. However, because item 41764 has never been claimable by GPs, on balance, we suggest it remains a service that GPs cannot claim.

Examples and other relevant information

A call to Medicare is obviously appropriate, but heed the warning of Dr Stirling’s case and be very sure to obtain written advice on official departmental letterhead before making any decisions about whether to proceed and presumably invest in the expensive fibreoptic equipment required to perform this service. Dr Stirling invested in similarly expensive equipment and it did not end well.

Who this applies to

All GPs

When this applies

Always

2:23 pm  I  February 23, 2023  I  Margaret Faux

Date of Answer: 2:23 pm  I  February 23, 2023

GP 2020/0611

Answer

Probably not.

Context

A general practitioner has asked whether he can claim item 41764 given he has appropriate surgical training to perform the procedure, which is a nasendoscopy/sinoscopy.

Relevant legislative provisions

Health Insurance Act 1973

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulations (No. 1) 2020

Other Relevant Materials

Peer reviewed article includes commentary on the Stirling decision: Frenetic law making during the COVID-19 pandemic: the impact on doctors, patients and the Medicare system. https://auspublaw.org/2020/04/frenetic-law-making-during-the-covid-19-pandemic-the-impact-on-doctors-patients-and-the-medicare-system/

Case law

Stirling v Minister for Finance [2017] FCA 874

Ostrowski v Palmer [2004] HCA 30

Departmental interpretation

MBS context

Group T8 – Surgical Operations

Subgroup 8 – Ear, Nose And Throat

Item 41764

NASENDOSCOPY or SINOSCOPY or FIBREOPTIC EXAMINATION of NASOPHARYNX and LARYNX, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination.”

AND

Item 41500

EAR, foreign body (other than ventilating tube) in, removal of, other than by simple syringing

Detailed Reasoning

Before continuing please read OH 2020/064 as it provides important information regarding this question and the risks involved in relying on advice from anyone who tells you that you can bill this service. In addition, the High Court has provided authority on the unreliability of reliance on advice from public officials, see Ostrowski. Also, Dr Stirling’s case (discussed in answer OH 2020/064) almost exactly mirror’s this scenario and is a cautionary tale.

Item 41764 is positioned in the surgical, ENT section of the schedule, which in and of itself does not necessarily exclude a GP from billing it. GPs can certainly bill the first item in that section of the schedule which is item 41500, removal of foreign body from the ear.

However, starting with a global view of the MBS, the simpler, more straightforward procedures are usually at the beginning of each section, with more difficult procedures following by order of complexity. And whilst there are certainly procedures scattered throughout many sections of the schedule that GPs and all doctors can claim, they tend to be quite tightly restricted. As we explained in OH 2020/064, the fact of having a provider number does not mean a doctor can claim every item in the schedule. Provider numbers are restricted based on registration details held by AHPRA and are linked to certain services.

Taking a step back in time before the MBS Review Taskforce, many surgical procedures in the schedule indicated that a GP could provide the service by use of the letter G. The same item would immediately follow, with the letter S and a higher fee, indicating the specialist equivalent service. Below is a relevant example from the 2016 Regulations. You will see that item 41764 never included a G whereas removal of tonsils and adenoids did.

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

41764 Nasendoscopy or sinoscopy or fibreoptic examination of nasopharynx and larynx, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination of (Anaes.) 122.85
41788 Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (G) (H) (Anaes.) 219.95
41789 Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (S) (H) (Anaes.) 295.70
41800 Adenoids, removal of (G) (H) (Anaes.) 117.55
41801 Adenoids, removal of (S) (H) (Anaes.) 162.95

Jump to today and the use of G and S has been discontinued so it is no longer immediately apparent which services, which doctors can claim. However, because item 41764 has never been claimable by GPs, on balance, we suggest it remains a service that GPs cannot claim.

Examples and other relevant information

A call to Medicare is obviously appropriate, but heed the warning of Dr Stirling’s case and be very sure to obtain written advice on official departmental letterhead before making any decisions about whether to proceed and presumably invest in the expensive fibreoptic equipment required to perform this service. Dr Stirling invested in similarly expensive equipment and it did not end well.

Who this applies to

All GPs

When this applies

Always

 

4:16 pm  I  March 1, 2023  I  Margaret Faux

Date of Answer: 4:16 pm  I  March 1, 2023

GP 2020/0611

Answer

Probably not.

Context

A general practitioner has asked whether he can claim item 41764 given he has appropriate surgical training to perform the procedure, which is a nasendoscopy/sinoscopy.

Relevant legislative provisions

Health Insurance Act 1973

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulations (No. 1) 2020

Other Relevant Materials

Peer reviewed article includes commentary on the Stirling decision: Frenetic law making during the COVID-19 pandemic: the impact on doctors, patients and the Medicare system. https://auspublaw.org/2020/04/frenetic-law-making-during-the-covid-19-pandemic-the-impact-on-doctors-patients-and-the-medicare-system/

Case law

Stirling v Minister for Finance [2017] FCA 874

Ostrowski v Palmer [2004] HCA 30

Departmental interpretation

MBS context

Group T8 – Surgical Operations

Subgroup 8 – Ear, Nose And Throat

Item 41764

NASENDOSCOPY or SINOSCOPY or FIBREOPTIC EXAMINATION of NASOPHARYNX and LARYNX, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination.”

AND

Item 41500

EAR, foreign body (other than ventilating tube) in, removal of, other than by simple syringing

Detailed Reasoning

Before continuing please read OH 2020/064 as it provides important information regarding this question and the risks involved in relying on advice from anyone who tells you that you can bill this service. In addition, the High Court has provided authority on the unreliability of reliance on advice from public officials, see Ostrowski. Also, Dr Stirling’s case (discussed in answer OH 2020/064) almost exactly mirror’s this scenario and is a cautionary tale.

Item 41764 is positioned in the surgical, ENT section of the schedule, which in and of itself does not necessarily exclude a GP from billing it. GPs can certainly bill the first item in that section of the schedule which is item 41500, removal of foreign body from the ear.

However, starting with a global view of the MBS, the simpler, more straightforward procedures are usually at the beginning of each section, with more difficult procedures following by order of complexity. And whilst there are certainly procedures scattered throughout many sections of the schedule that GPs and all doctors can claim, they tend to be quite tightly restricted. As we explained in OH 2020/064, the fact of having a provider number does not mean a doctor can claim every item in the schedule. Provider numbers are restricted based on registration details held by AHPRA and are linked to certain services.

Taking a step back in time before the MBS Review Taskforce, many surgical procedures in the schedule indicated that a GP could provide the service by use of the letter G. The same item would immediately follow, with the letter S and a higher fee, indicating the specialist equivalent service. Below is a relevant example from the 2016 Regulations. You will see that item 41764 never included a G whereas removal of tonsils and adenoids did.

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

41764 Nasendoscopy or sinoscopy or fibreoptic examination of nasopharynx and larynx, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination of (Anaes.) 122.85
41788 Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (G) (H) (Anaes.) 219.95
41789 Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (S) (H) (Anaes.) 295.70
41800 Adenoids, removal of (G) (H) (Anaes.) 117.55
41801 Adenoids, removal of (S) (H) (Anaes.) 162.95

Jump to today and the use of G and S has been discontinued so it is no longer immediately apparent which services, which doctors can claim. However, because item 41764 has never been claimable by GPs, on balance, we suggest it remains a service that GPs cannot claim.

Examples and other relevant information

A call to Medicare is obviously appropriate, but heed the warning of Dr Stirling’s case and be very sure to obtain written advice on official departmental letterhead before making any decisions about whether to proceed and presumably invest in the expensive fibreoptic equipment required to perform this service. Dr Stirling invested in similarly expensive equipment and it did not end well.

Who this applies to

All GPs

When this applies

Always

2:39 pm  I  May 15, 2023  I  Margaret Faux

Date of Answer: 2:39 pm  I  May 15, 2023

GP 2020/0611

Answer

Probably not.

Context

A general practitioner has asked whether he can claim item 41764 given he has appropriate surgical training to perform the procedure, which is a nasendoscopy/sinoscopy.

Relevant legislative provisions

Health Insurance Act 1973

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulations (No. 1) 2020

Other Relevant Materials

Peer reviewed article includes commentary on the Stirling decision: Frenetic law making during the COVID-19 pandemic: the impact on doctors, patients and the Medicare system. https://auspublaw.org/2020/04/frenetic-law-making-during-the-covid-19-pandemic-the-impact-on-doctors-patients-and-the-medicare-system/

Case law

Stirling v Minister for Finance [2017] FCA 874

Ostrowski v Palmer [2004] HCA 30

Departmental interpretation

MBS context

Group T8 – Surgical Operations

Subgroup 8 – Ear, Nose And Throat

Item 41764

NASENDOSCOPY or SINOSCOPY or FIBREOPTIC EXAMINATION of NASOPHARYNX and LARYNX, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination.”

AND

Item 41500

EAR, foreign body (other than ventilating tube) in, removal of, other than by simple syringing

Detailed Reasoning

Before continuing please read OH 2020/064 as it provides important information regarding this question and the risks involved in relying on advice from anyone who tells you that you can bill this service. In addition, the High Court has provided authority on the unreliability of reliance on advice from public officials, see Ostrowski. Also, Dr Stirling’s case (discussed in answer OH 2020/064) almost exactly mirror’s this scenario and is a cautionary tale.

Item 41764 is positioned in the surgical, ENT section of the schedule, which in and of itself does not necessarily exclude a GP from billing it. GPs can certainly bill the first item in that section of the schedule which is item 41500, removal of foreign body from the ear.

However, starting with a global view of the MBS, the simpler, more straightforward procedures are usually at the beginning of each section, with more difficult procedures following by order of complexity. And whilst there are certainly procedures scattered throughout many sections of the schedule that GPs and all doctors can claim, they tend to be quite tightly restricted. As we explained in OH 2020/064, the fact of having a provider number does not mean a doctor can claim every item in the schedule. Provider numbers are restricted based on registration details held by AHPRA and are linked to certain services.

Taking a step back in time before the MBS Review Taskforce, many surgical procedures in the schedule indicated that a GP could provide the service by use of the letter G. The same item would immediately follow, with the letter S and a higher fee, indicating the specialist equivalent service. Below is a relevant example from the 2016 Regulations. You will see that item 41764 never included a G whereas removal of tonsils and adenoids did.

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

41764 Nasendoscopy or sinoscopy or fibreoptic examination of nasopharynx and larynx, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination of (Anaes.) 122.85
41788 Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (G) (H) (Anaes.) 219.95
41789 Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (S) (H) (Anaes.) 295.70
41800 Adenoids, removal of (G) (H) (Anaes.) 117.55
41801 Adenoids, removal of (S) (H) (Anaes.) 162.95

Jump to today and the use of G and S has been discontinued so it is no longer immediately apparent which services, which doctors can claim. However, because item 41764 has never been claimable by GPs, on balance, we suggest it remains a service that GPs cannot claim.

Examples and other relevant information

A call to Medicare is obviously appropriate, but heed the warning of Dr Stirling’s case and be very sure to obtain written advice on official departmental letterhead before making any decisions about whether to proceed and presumably invest in the expensive fibreoptic equipment required to perform this service. Dr Stirling invested in similarly expensive equipment and it did not end well.

Who this applies to

All GPs

When this applies

Always

2:40 pm  I  May 15, 2023  I  Margaret Faux

Date of Answer: 2:40 pm  I  May 15, 2023

GP 2020/0611

Answer

Probably not.

Context

A general practitioner has asked whether he can claim item 41764 given he has appropriate surgical training to perform the procedure, which is a nasendoscopy/sinoscopy.

Relevant legislative provisions

Health Insurance Act 1973

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulations (No. 1) 2020

Other Relevant Materials

Peer reviewed article includes commentary on the Stirling decision: Frenetic law making during the COVID-19 pandemic: the impact on doctors, patients and the Medicare system. https://auspublaw.org/2020/04/frenetic-law-making-during-the-covid-19-pandemic-the-impact-on-doctors-patients-and-the-medicare-system/

Case law

Stirling v Minister for Finance [2017] FCA 874

Ostrowski v Palmer [2004] HCA 30

Departmental interpretation

MBS context

Group T8 – Surgical Operations

Subgroup 8 – Ear, Nose And Throat

Item 41764

NASENDOSCOPY or SINOSCOPY or FIBREOPTIC EXAMINATION of NASOPHARYNX and LARYNX, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination.”

AND

Item 41500

EAR, foreign body (other than ventilating tube) in, removal of, other than by simple syringing

Detailed Reasoning

Before continuing please read OH 2020/064 as it provides important information regarding this question and the risks involved in relying on advice from anyone who tells you that you can bill this service. In addition, the High Court has provided authority on the unreliability of reliance on advice from public officials, see Ostrowski. Also, Dr Stirling’s case (discussed in answer OH 2020/064) almost exactly mirror’s this scenario and is a cautionary tale.

Item 41764 is positioned in the surgical, ENT section of the schedule, which in and of itself does not necessarily exclude a GP from billing it. GPs can certainly bill the first item in that section of the schedule which is item 41500, removal of foreign body from the ear.

However, starting with a global view of the MBS, the simpler, more straightforward procedures are usually at the beginning of each section, with more difficult procedures following by order of complexity. And whilst there are certainly procedures scattered throughout many sections of the schedule that GPs and all doctors can claim, they tend to be quite tightly restricted. As we explained in OH 2020/064, the fact of having a provider number does not mean a doctor can claim every item in the schedule. Provider numbers are restricted based on registration details held by AHPRA and are linked to certain services.

Taking a step back in time before the MBS Review Taskforce, many surgical procedures in the schedule indicated that a GP could provide the service by use of the letter G. The same item would immediately follow, with the letter S and a higher fee, indicating the specialist equivalent service. Below is a relevant example from the 2016 Regulations. You will see that item 41764 never included a G whereas removal of tonsils and adenoids did.

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

41764 Nasendoscopy or sinoscopy or fibreoptic examination of nasopharynx and larynx, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination of (Anaes.) 122.85
41788 Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (G) (H) (Anaes.) 219.95
41789 Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (S) (H) (Anaes.) 295.70
41800 Adenoids, removal of (G) (H) (Anaes.) 117.55
41801 Adenoids, removal of (S) (H) (Anaes.) 162.95

Jump to today and the use of G and S has been discontinued so it is no longer immediately apparent which services, which doctors can claim. However, because item 41764 has never been claimable by GPs, on balance, we suggest it remains a service that GPs cannot claim.

Examples and other relevant information

A call to Medicare is obviously appropriate, but heed the warning of Dr Stirling’s case and be very sure to obtain written advice on official departmental letterhead before making any decisions about whether to proceed and presumably invest in the expensive fibreoptic equipment required to perform this service. Dr Stirling invested in similarly expensive equipment and it did not end well.

Who this applies to

All GPs

When this applies

Always

GP 2020/0611

Answer

Probably not.

Context

A general practitioner has asked whether he can claim item 41764 given he has appropriate surgical training to perform the procedure, which is a nasendoscopy/sinoscopy.

Relevant legislative provisions

Health Insurance Act 1973

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulations (No. 1) 2020

Other Relevant Materials

Peer reviewed article includes commentary on the Stirling decision: Frenetic law making during the COVID-19 pandemic: the impact on doctors, patients and the Medicare system. https://auspublaw.org/2020/04/frenetic-law-making-during-the-covid-19-pandemic-the-impact-on-doctors-patients-and-the-medicare-system/

Case law

Stirling v Minister for Finance [2017] FCA 874

Ostrowski v Palmer [2004] HCA 30

Departmental interpretation

MBS context

Group T8 – Surgical Operations

Subgroup 8 – Ear, Nose And Throat

Item 41764

NASENDOSCOPY or SINOSCOPY or FIBREOPTIC EXAMINATION of NASOPHARYNX and LARYNX, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination.”

AND

Item 41500

EAR, foreign body (other than ventilating tube) in, removal of, other than by simple syringing

Detailed Reasoning

Before continuing please read OH 2020/064 as it provides important information regarding this question and the risks involved in relying on advice from anyone who tells you that you can bill this service. In addition, the High Court has provided authority on the unreliability of reliance on advice from public officials, see Ostrowski. Also, Dr Stirling’s case (discussed in answer OH 2020/064) almost exactly mirror’s this scenario and is a cautionary tale.

Item 41764 is positioned in the surgical, ENT section of the schedule, which in and of itself does not necessarily exclude a GP from billing it. GPs can certainly bill the first item in that section of the schedule which is item 41500, removal of foreign body from the ear.

However, starting with a global view of the MBS, the simpler, more straightforward procedures are usually at the beginning of each section, with more difficult procedures following by order of complexity. And whilst there are certainly procedures scattered throughout many sections of the schedule that GPs and all doctors can claim, they tend to be quite tightly restricted. As we explained in OH 2020/064, the fact of having a provider number does not mean a doctor can claim every item in the schedule. Provider numbers are restricted based on registration details held by AHPRA and are linked to certain services.

Taking a step back in time before the MBS Review Taskforce, many surgical procedures in the schedule indicated that a GP could provide the service by use of the letter G. The same item would immediately follow, with the letter S and a higher fee, indicating the specialist equivalent service. Below is a relevant example from the 2016 Regulations. You will see that item 41764 never included a G whereas removal of tonsils and adenoids did.

Health Insurance (General Medical Services Table) Regulation 2016

41764 Nasendoscopy or sinoscopy or fibreoptic examination of nasopharynx and larynx, one or more of these procedures, unilateral or bilateral examination of (Anaes.) 122.85
41788 Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (G) (H) (Anaes.) 219.95
41789 Tonsils or tonsils and adenoids, removal of, in a person aged less than 12 years (S) (H) (Anaes.) 295.70
41800 Adenoids, removal of (G) (H) (Anaes.) 117.55
41801 Adenoids, removal of (S) (H) (Anaes.) 162.95

Jump to today and the use of G and S has been discontinued so it is no longer immediately apparent which services, which doctors can claim. However, because item 41764 has never been claimable by GPs, on balance, we suggest it remains a service that GPs cannot claim.

Examples and other relevant information

A call to Medicare is obviously appropriate, but heed the warning of Dr Stirling’s case and be very sure to obtain written advice on official departmental letterhead before making any decisions about whether to proceed and presumably invest in the expensive fibreoptic equipment required to perform this service. Dr Stirling invested in similarly expensive equipment and it did not end well.

Who this applies to

All GPs

When this applies

Always

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